>>reporter: spokesman for the california manufacturer and technology association says this he says company are going to have to pay more to meet the carbon limits and ultimately those costs will be passed on to consumers and will cost job jobs. >> but there's a distinction between a good cap and trade program that helps california reduce its emission at minimal cost and auction that is designed to extract billions of dollars from industry in our highest wage employer in california and that simply carbon has done. >>reporter: energy institute at berkeley professor says that's just not accurate. >> consume remember probably going to see almost nothing in the next year. >>reporter: he says big energy users like utility, oil compan company, cement manufacturer all been given permit by the stay to comfort carbon they produce. the cap will be reduced over the years but he says there is also a built-in incentive to improve. >> because if you figure out a way to make the cement while emitting fewer green house gas you good tote keep the permit. that means you get to the make money. >>reporter: we